A few months back, on a cold, Sydney winter night, I meet Caroline Cecil aka Whipped Cream. Standing at 5’3, hair did, nails did, and wearing some sick baggy cargo jeans with a blue flanno, she later posts the fit on her Instagram with the caption “Big Clit Energy”.
We walk to the hotel and we break the ice by – obviously – talking about the weather. After spending a week off in Melbourne, she’s taken aback by how cold it gets in Australia. She’s bubbly, open, and confident. Before her first Sydney headline show, we chat about work ethic, her determination and her desire to conquer the world through her music.
From professional figure skater to DJ/Producer. You’ve only been making music for around 5 years. How did you make the switch from sport to music?
It was quite easy; skating was all I did, and then I injured myself. When I broke my ankle, I kept skating for a year and I just wasn’t getting the jumps. I had nothing else to do, so I went to this festival in the States and felt accepted for once. On the ice, you’re constantly judged – you can’t have tattoos and you have to be one way to get the highest points. My friend invited me to this festival and I fell in love with the feeling I had there. I wanted to provide this to other people, so I came back and spent all the money I had. I got Ableton, got a controller and I just started doing shit from there. That’s how I started. I wasn’t in a music school or anything, I just felt it. That’s also why I skated, because I could feel music.
Did you see any synergies through the art forms?
I’m actually super grateful that I was a figure skater before this because I learnt how the power of your mind works – believing you can land that jump or being persistent no matter what the judges will think of you. It’s not always about technicalities. For me, I was never a technical skater, I was never great at jumps. It was about being artistic on the ice, I was just fucking awesome at expressing myself through music. So now I am music, I’m creating the music and if I didn’t break my ankle, I wouldn’t be doing it.
It took one incident to change your whole life!
Yeah and at the time and I was psycho passionate [about skating]. I hardly went to school and I had no back up plan other than skating. Then the injury happened and it was the greatest blessing of my life.
You also worked for a telephone company as a retention agent? Was there a time where you thought that this might be it, you’re going to work in that 9-5 world?
No, fuck no. I’d be at my job under the table writing notes of what I thought my DJ name would be. Or lyrics, looking up poetry and quotes, the corniest shit. I was just manifesting. I fucking knew I was going to do [music]; I had this feeling inside.
How did you feel about reinventing yourself? Were you scared?
My parents were very taken aback, though they knew I would be ok. They were like, “You didn’t go to school, what are you going to do”. I’m a Capricorn and Capricorns get very set on one thing. We just go to that one thing and have blinders on. So, when I was like, “Ok I’m done with this one thing I’ve done my whole life,” they were confused. It was a little scary, but call it luck or whatever, I found my purpose. It might sound cocky or whatever, but I just know I’m meant to do this.
Do you think being a woman made it harder to make that transition?
No! No one in music knew who I was. I lived on an island of 80,000 people. Hardly anyone produced music there, never mind women. The figure skating community couldn’t care less. I wasn’t landing my jumps anymore. The only people that really cared were my closest two friends and my parents.
The first year and half I had to lock myself in my room, work hard, not see people, not party, because I couldn’t afford it. I knew where I was going but lots of people couldn’t see that. A lot of people underestimated me but it’s funny how people come back around. I don’t hold resentment or hate in my heart. That’s where they were and that’s where I was and why would they believe me? I was chasing this huge dream. A lot of people reading this might think, “I can’t do this, I don’t have money. This dream’s too big, I can’t do this.” But, dude, you can! It’s really just the power of your mind. I had no background in this, I just felt it. That’s it! And I worked really fucking hard and sacrificed everything.
You take people by surprise with how heavy your music is. Did you always feel confident making this kind of music?
I made a lot of very emotional, starfucker vibe, James Blake, Aphex Twin vibe [music] which I’m sitting on right now. This year the world is going to start seeing my hip hop coming forth. The stuff I’m sitting on. No one has any idea of what’s about to happen. I started in the underground and am influenced by that. My purpose is to impact as many people as possible, so that means shifting that impact to as many people as possible.
Did you ever experience imposter syndrome with switching genres?
The hip hop community is so welcoming, it’s actually crazy. In all the sessions I’ve had with the different hip hop artists, they think what I’m doing is so innovative. Some have said that I remind of them of Yeezy. That’s the biggest, highest, excellent compliment I’ve ever heard in my life. I’m sure I’ll face it [imposter syndrome], but I’ve only been received with kind, positive energy.
It crazy how sometimes you feel like your ideas can be stupid but when you put them out to the world and realise how opening yourself up can come back tenfold.
Totally! I know a lot of people that started making hip hop beats and then got into electronic music after. They started making electronic music and it’s sooo innovative. I think that’s what’s happening with my music. I started in electronic and now I’m making hip hop where you can hear that electronic, innovative thing. Kinda like what Kenny Beats does! He is crushing it right now!
Who and what keeps you inspired?
Yeezy is a big one for sure. Sevdaliza is probably my biggest influence in art in general. Active Child, James Blake. Tupac I love; he was so passionate and he had such a good way of why he did everything. He really did want to change the world and help the world. When you have a gift like he did, like the way he wrote and the way he saw things, he wasn’t scared that people would hate him. For me, that’s the upmost inspiration because when I first started, I read so much hate on me. Fake shit! I used to get so upset about it and I used to want to conform to be this picture cover girl that everyone loves. But you know what? At the end of day, no great things happen if you don’t speak your mind. I want to change the world with what I’m doing and if you don’t like what I’m doing then I’ll send you off with love. I think that’s kind of how Tupac lived except he was a little feistier. I’m not gonna fight a bitch! Haha.
Was there a moment where it all made sense and you thought, “Ok I can do this. I am doing this.”
For me, my live performance, there’s been a couple. About 3 or 4 years ago Shambala was probably the tipping point where I was like “Ok people actually give a fuck about what I’m doing.” This past EDC was pretty incredible. To have that many people out at 4am was insane. You often think, “Do people actually care?” Even now, I’ll go home from a show and put on a song and think “Does anyone even give a fuck?”
All artists kinda have this thing where [you think] you’re not good enough, no one gives a shit, why am I even trying, but at the end of the day you have to remember where you started. I dreamt of doing this, I know I want more! I still battle with it. I feel like it’s never enough and think, “What can I do to be better?” Meditation has transformed my life. Mediation has just been like “Yo chill the fuck out. You’re doing so much. Enjoy it, smell the fucking flowers.”
I feel like a lot of girls feel that way because society tells us that we’re never enough. Then society puts us against each other as well. We are constantly competing with each other when really there’s room for all of us at the top because we’re carving the way anyway.
Exactly, and every girl that is trying to climb to the top right now gets it. They’re like, “I face these things too, so why would we want to push each other down?” It totally shouldn’t be competition – it should be community. We could come together and be genuinely trying to help each other instead of being like “There can only be one female DJ at the top. There can only be one female rapper at the top.” There’s 60 million men and we’re already fighting the men, so women have to really come together.
The women in electronic music are pretty fucking awesome and they all face the same shit I face. No one really gets it when you are bawling in your hotel room alone, other than another female DJ. There’s a few I can message and they get it. No one else is going to get it. Not my dad, not my psychiatrist, not my manager. No one is going know it other than another female touring artist.
Since you started 5 years ago how have you seen the music industry change for women in particular?
Yeah for the better 100%. There’s just way more woman showing face. Way more little bass head girls actually crushing the underground scene right now.
I also feel like there are a few more women behind the scenes now too?
Totally. Tour managers I see all the time. Managers are even starting to happen which is sick. They’re boss ass bitches! I think it’s about us all coming together. We can’t quit!
What would you like to see more of?
I would like to see more of the men not even putting their hand out and helping us up but start acting like we exist. Don’t look right through me. How about you just talk to me even though I’m not going to put out. You can make one wrong decision as a woman, slip up, and you’re not respected anymore.
I think that’s such a bullshit because men can get away with sleeping with multiple women and there is no repercussions and we have to be so careful or else your brand, reputation is ruined. Yep. Everything! That’s why I don’t drink. That’s why I don’t do anything anymore because everyone is waiting for you to slip up.
— WHIPPED CREAM (@WHIPPEDCREAM) September 30, 2019
What do you love about being in the industry?
I love the power of being able to impact people’s lives, that’s the number one thing. People go to my shows to have fun – or to disconnect or connect. Whatever it may be, if you’re coming to my show and I’m making you feel something. I’m hoping I’m making you feel good. Even if you come and you hate my show, at least I made you feel some passion. For me it’s more like I hope they come and enjoy. When they listen to my music, they can feel something. Maybe you’ll find your purpose; I think everyone’s life mission is to find their purpose. I hope everyone can find it and if you don’t know what it is right now, don’t worry! I meet so many girls that are like “I have no idea what I’m doing” and that’s fine. That’s a part of life. Go and experience more. Don’t sit and drink away or smoke away because you’re anxious because you don’t know your purpose. Everyone has a purpose and our purpose is to find our purpose. Just fucking go and do it in my opinion.
Who are you most excited about who seeing at FOMO?
I have 3! BROCKHAMPTON, Rico Nasty and Lizzo! Rico is sooo good live! She is literally made to do this. You know when you see an artist and you’re just like they are made to do this? That’s Rico!
I literally check Lizzo’s Instagram every day. She’s such an inspiring human being. She totally embodies confidence and beauty. We need that woman’s influence right now. It’s incredible.
Whipped Cream is just as keen for FOMO as we are! Be sure to catch her in Australia at #FOMO2020